Darkest Dungeon® II - 日本語レビュー1件・全言語レビュー25,633件・評価・同時接続数

I never really leave reviews, but I really liked the first Darkest Dungeon and its core mechanics so here goes. I wrote this as I went along the hours I spent playing the game. Bad: - The game is now a Slay the Spire kind of game. - The game now only has 'expeditions' instead of dungeons. On the surface these are 'just' (very) long dungeons, but in reality these are vastly different. There is no more item collection because all your items are gone after an expedition, overall progression is not tied to characters levelling up, gaining skills or improved stats, like in the original, but by buying non-sense effects or a chance that a certain character-specific item may appear during one of these expeditions or by spending 'mastery points' for skill upgrades that are sometimes barely an upgrade. There is no way to navigate the expedition when locked into a course so you miss everything that is not on that chosen path, which is a problem because certain encounters can end your expedition, even early on, there are no interactable objects anymore for benefits, except for those found in the 'rooms' (or locations), which only comes down to having the right guy in your party for the right benefit, which, mind you, are found at random so there is no real preparation you can do. - There is no more party or roster building that the original had. This aspect was a great tool then to mitigate some of the randomness of the game and it allowed the player to have unusual or cheesy parties. Now you may only have one of each type of hero, which are not all unlocked right away too. - Overall combat design is much more tedious than the original. Lots of enemies now cause a bleed or blight, or some seemingly random negative effect just to make it more tedious for you. Also healing skills of your characters are now locked until a character falls below a certain percentage and often have one or two round cooldowns for some dumb reason. The strength of the first game was an increasing difficulty in enemy complexity as well, which also means that the encounters are simpler on lower levels and more difficult and complex on higher levels. Very effective design choice, but that is not present here; they just throw everything at you. You own heroes also feel handicapped it seems, which, from my perspective just makes things unnecessarily tedious (now you have to rely on the 'Combo' effect a lot or you have to combine extra damage effects to be effective). They also simplified some character and ability stats, like removing the Dodge and Accuracy stats, but instead giving some, seemingly random, abilities a buff for 50% or 75% dodge chance or apply a negative effect to blind, which makes the fights even more hit or miss (which is also used by enemies of course). It is very difficult now to evaluate what value certain abilities, items and choices have because combat now relies so much on these effects. - As I said before, encounters are so slow now. I feel I had to mention it again. It was only until I used the 'Meat Grinder' party (Occultist / Jester / Highwayman / Leper) that encounters would 'feel' fast enough. - Instead of moving through a dungeon you now move around in a stagecoach, but this only really seems to serve a narrative purpose, not a gameplay one, except, by being another thing you can buy items for that are very difficult to measure and evaluate and another thing that can go wrong (wheels can break for instance). - Either you, randomly, get the items that make you win, or you just keep losing. - Now the game is some relationship simulator??? The problem with this system, I feel, is that it is completely random, while the effects can make or break an expedition, for instance two characters can become suspicious of each other, which adds negative effect every time you use a certain ability. This is highly impactful because the negative effect may simply be strong or because that one ability is integral to the character's function in your party. - Some character progression is now also locked with these randomly found shrines; these give new abilities. Sometimes this just provides some background information, but other times it gives you these horrible terrible gimmick encounters that take way too long. - Combat items must now be equipped by one character. This means you cannot bandage or use blight cure with just any character, which would be really useful since basically all enemies now apply a wide variety of different effects. - What is also terrible is that most positive effects now last a number of uses as well, instead of turns. The effect is almost always used up within one round, making it very difficult to measure the real benefit. - Enemies also seem to care much less where they are on their side. In the original game it was an effective strategy to pull ranged enemies in close (for most of them), because they may not have powerful abilities when they are in the first position. In this game they can still be a real pain even if you drag them into a position that would appear to be disadvantageous for them. - There are also no more items or effects that improve the chance to inflict a certain effect, like moving or stunning an enemy, making these effects even more hit or miss (an enemy may have a high resistance to bleeding, but there is no way to do this, unless you find 'the item'). - The game introduces 'Paths' which are meant a variant on a character's abilities, gaining some extra effects and synergies, but a lot of the times these paths don't make any sense, unless you have 'the item', which again are random, to make it work. Sometimes the path's effects even synergize with one of the character's abilities that are not even learned yet, so a lot of the time I am thinking to myself: "what is this supposed to do????". Good: - The graphical style is still pretty good and very much like the original. The world and enemy (visual) designs do feel very Darkest Dungeon. I could not get myself to complete this game.

They should have just stuck with the formula from the first game. While the concept here is more rogue-like, it loses a ton of what made the first DD great. I don't recommend it for fans of the first game. It's just far too different.

Feels like a downgrade from the original. No home base, no roster of heroes to raise, and most noticeably, no overall campaign that made this game feel fun. It's been boiled down to your average 'Isaac' roguelite mechanics with some boring meta progression.